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[Science_Guy]

this is quoted from an Organization that I've been following for a while.

Discuss as you wish.

For physical life to be possible in the universe, several characteristics must take on specific values, and these are listed below.  In the case of several of these characteristics, and given the intricacy of their interrelationships, the indication of divine "fine tuning" seems incontrovertible.

Strong nuclear force constant
Weak nuclear force constant
Gravitational force constant
Electromagnetic force constant
Ratio of electromagnetic force constant to gravitational force constant
Ratio of proton to electron mass
Ratio of number of protons to number of electrons
Ratio of proton to electron charge
Expansion rate of the universe
Mass density of the universe
Baryon (proton and neutron) density of the universe
Space energy or dark energy density of the universe
Ratio of space energy density to mass density
Entropy level of the universe
Velocity of light
Age of the universe
Uniformity of radiation
Homogeneity of the universe
Average distance between galaxies
Average distance between galaxy clusters
Average distance between stars
Average size and distribution of galaxy clusters
Numbers, sizes, and locations of cosmic voids
Electromagnetic fine structure constant
Gravitational fine-structure constant
Decay rate of protons
Ground state energy level for helium-4
Carbon-12 to oxygen-16 nuclear energy level ratio
Decay rate for beryllium-8
Ratio of neutron mass to proton mass
Initial excess of nucleons over antinucleons
Polarity of the water molecule
Epoch for hypernova eruptions
Number and type of hypernova eruptions
Epoch for supernova eruptions
Number and types of supernova eruptions
Epoch for white dwarf binaries
Density of white dwarf binaries
Ratio of exotic matter to ordinary matter
Number of effective dimensions in the early universe
Number of effective dimensions in the present universe
Mass values for the active neutrinos
Number of different species of active neutrinos
Number of active neutrinos in the universe
Mass value for the sterile neutrino
Number of sterile neutrinos in the universe
Decay rates of exotic mass particles
Magnitude of the temperature ripples in cosmic background radiation
Size of the relativistic dilation factor
Magnitude of the Heisenberg uncertainty
Quantity of gas deposited into the deep intergalactic medium by the first supernovae
Positive nature of cosmic pressures
Positive nature of cosmic energy densities
Density of quasars
Decay rate of cold dark matter particles
Relative abundances of different exotic mass particles
Degree to which exotic matter self interacts
Epoch at which the first stars (metal-free pop III stars) begin to form
Epoch at which the first stars (metal-free pop III stars cease to form
Number density of metal-free pop III stars
Average mass of metal-free pop III stars
Epoch for the formation of the first galaxies
Epoch for the formation of the first quasars
Amount, rate, and epoch of decay of embedded defects
Ratio of warm exotic matter density to cold exotic matter density
Ratio of hot exotic matter density to cold exotic matter density
Level of quantization of the cosmic spacetime fabric
Flatness of universe's geometry
Average rate of increase in galaxy sizes
Change in average rate of increase in galaxy sizes throughout cosmic history
Constancy of dark energy factors
Epoch for star formation peak
Location of exotic matter relative to ordinary matter
Strength of primordial cosmic magnetic field
Level of primordial magnetohydrodynamic turbulence
Level of charge-parity violation
Number of galaxies in the observable universe
Polarization level of the cosmic background radiation
Date for completion of second reionization event of the universe
Date of subsidence of gamma-ray burst production
Relative density of intermediate mass stars in the early history of the universe
Water's temperature of maximum density
Water's heat of fusion
Water's heat of vaporization
Number density of clumpuscules (dense clouds of cold molecular hydrogen gas) in the universe
Average mass of clumpuscules in the universe
Location of clumpuscules in the universe
Dioxygen's kinetic oxidation rate of organic molecules
Level of paramagnetic behavior in dioxygen
Density of ultra-dwarf galaxies (or supermassive globular clusters) in the middle-aged universe
Degree of space-time warping and twisting by general relativistic factors
Percentage of the initial mass function of the universe made up of intermediate mass stars
Strength of the cosmic primordial magnetic field

[Hadrian]

you posted

"For physical life to be possible in the universe, several characteristics must take on specific values, and these are listed below.  In the case of several of these characteristics, and given the intricacy of their interrelationships, the indication of divine "fine tuning" seems incontrovertible."


do you mean like a personal GOD with a chemistry set?

[Science_Guy]

that was quoted from a scientist, And I've taken it to mean that life cannot exist unless those 93 characteristics must be in a very narrow range, therefore it must of been designed.

[Hadrian]

I always feel the trouble with this approach is that it is bit like reverse engineering. You can always find a logical path back. That said the original journey may not have been so logical. What of the billions of different attempts that lead to failure of one kind or another. Where they too the hand of a creator? If so I would be more inclined to agree whit the idea that the creator is the creative force that drives on the Universe in a process of change that is governed by quantum probability that all things are possible including us.     

[sunfire]

Pretty interesting...I tend to agree with you Hadrian...

[Science_Guy]

I tend to go by: He created the universe and lets it run with as little miraculous intervention as possible.

[Hadrian]

Ah so you know my wife then.................LOL 

[sunfire]

LOL  Too funny!

[JimBob]

this is quoted from an Organization that I've been following for a while.

Discuss as you wish.

For physical life to be possible in the universe, several characteristics must take on specific values, and these are listed below.  In the case of several of these characteristics, and given the intricacy of their interrelationships, the indication of divine "fine tuning" seems incontrovertible.

 ETC.

Hi, all, I don't believe that we, with our limited understanding as human beings, can adequately codify what is real or unreal. All of life is an illusion in our limited understanding of  consciousness, which exists for the maturation of the Atman or SELF. Once this realization comes into being, we can see through this "cosmic joke we are living and really enjoy just being. We do not need to believe or not believe anything, we just need to experience life without judging it. The 93 thing for life to be possible, if they are real, essentially limits you to a small set of the possibilities of being human.

[DoctorBeaver]

I can narrow the 93 down quite considerably as many you have stated are dependent on others in the list.

For instance:-

Ratio of electromagnetic force constant to gravitational force constant - spurious. You've already listed the electromagnetic & gravitational constants. The ratio between them is a function of their values and not a fundamental value in its own right.

Ratio of space energy density to mass density - a ratio cannot be a separate fundamental value. It is dependent on other values.

Age of the universe - The age of the universe has nothing to do with it. Given the fundamental constants then eventually the universe will have the form we see.

Uniformity of radiation
Homogeneity of the universe
Average distance between galaxies
Average distance between galaxy clusters
Average distance between stars
Average size and distribution of galaxy clusters
Numbers, sizes, and locations of cosmic voids
Electromagnetic fine structure constant
Gravitational fine-structure constant

All of the above depend on the gravitational constant.

Decay rate of protons - Protons only decay according to a limited number (possibly only 1) theory.

Decay rate for beryllium-8 - depends on the strength of the weak force so is not in itself fundamental.

Number of effective dimensions in the early universe
Number of effective dimensions in the present universe

The number of dimensions could be the reason the fundamental constants have the values they do. You can count the fundamental constants or the number of dimensions, but not both.

Mass values for the active neutrinos
Number of different species of active neutrinos
Number of active neutrinos in the universe
Mass value for the sterile neutrino
Number of sterile neutrinos in the universe
Decay rates of exotic mass particles

The above are dependent on more fundamental constants such as the weak force.

Magnitude of the temperature ripples in cosmic background radiation - all the ripples signify is dishomogeneity in the early universe & you've already mentioned homogeneity.

Epoch at which the first stars (metal-free pop III stars) begin to form
Epoch at which the first stars (metal-free pop III stars cease to form

These are dependent on the age of the universe & gravity.

Number density of metal-free pop III stars
Average mass of metal-free pop III stars
Epoch for the formation of the first galaxies
Epoch for the formation of the first quasars

These are due to the age of the universe & atomic forces which you have already counted.

Ratio of warm exotic matter density to cold exotic matter density
Ratio of hot exotic matter density to cold exotic matter density

Neither of these values is known

Flatness of universe's geometry - the geometry of the universe is not known.

Average rate of increase in galaxy sizes -
Change in average rate of increase in galaxy sizes throughout cosmic history

These are due to the age of the universe & gravity.

Location of exotic matter relative to ordinary matter - but no-one knows where it is yet!

Strength of primordial cosmic magnetic field
Level of primordial magnetohydrodynamic turbulence
Level of charge-parity violation
Number of galaxies in the observable universe - age, gravity again.

Need I go on?